Multi-client botting

[Bobbadog]

Hi everyone, new to the site here and as a newbie to the botting scene, looking for some advice.

I'm wondering which of the station bots are best suited for multi-clienting, or if there is even a way to do that? Dont mind if its rigs, patch or bilge.

Appreciate any advice on the topic. Ive seen people talk about having 50+ bot clients running etc, wondering how this can even be possible. I don't need to do 50, but 3-5+ would be really cool.

Not sure if there is anything advanced enough that allows you to switch from a station bot to a SF bot for something like Cit runs as well?


Thanks everyone

[Extra Noodles]

I'd either say rigs or bilge, but you're going to have to be on point with restationing or finding a station in the first place (there's a ton of people doing the same thing on blockades). If you have a good restationer this might help our somewhat.

If you're doing 3-5, consider downloading a VM software with a Windows 7 iso or Windows 10 if your computer can handle it. If you want to make an army of your own, look into Google Cloud Platform or a service that will help you connect to your VM in a server. Search the forums a little bit and I'm sure you'll be able to find a guide written by our fellow members on this topic.

Ideally for cit runs, you would want
1) A bot for a station
2) An sf bot
3) A teaming bot
4) Preferably a staller as well
5) A restationer
6) Auto-log upon divvy/port

All of these tools should be able to be found on Bot-Supply forum posts if you look hard enough. Hope this helped give some general pointers.

Happy Botting!

[Bobbadog]

Thanks for the reply!

Cit runs seem a little hard. But maybe kades and HS are good options. I plan to run them with my supervision as well if that helps any.

I will keep searching, but appreciate any help getting pointed in a good direction for a guide to follow. This is for sure not my realm of expertise. That said, I do still appreciate your advice and it gives me a good direction to go searching!

[Extra Noodles]

There's I think like 2? ish good guides on how to set up a VM on your computer through software like Virtualbox; the online version of this as seen in GCP/Vultr/Amazon Cloud is basically the same thing, except I would go for the latter if you want a full soccer team's worth of bots at your disposal. Just remember to run essentials such as Java, Jarfix, NET Framework, and maybe the SSL Errorfix so that your bots run smoothly on your VMs as well.

Cit runs are kinda meh; DiS really doesn't like the top rows (just the way it is), and if it happens to mess up near the top and semi-straightline, people will call you out on it or /complain without saying a word. HS backwalls are a better option- people will still report you for having a generic Aethyr (Depth 2 Auto High Token)/Blowhard/Oceans score but at least restationing is't an issue. Kades are tough, especially if you got on the board late and can't get all your alts on a single frig/brig. But hey, all of them pay nice so at the end of the day... you're the one that wins out.

(I have my own beef with people that ONLY run DiS on cit runs... but I'll keep that portion to myself)

[Bobbadog]

Okay interesting, checking out the Amazon lightsail virtual machine now

If I'm understanding correctly, I can launch multiple instances of the Lightsail client and on each one of those instances, I can run a PP client with one of the bots going. Also on each one of the virtual machines I open up, I should download Java, Jarfix, NET Framework, and maybe the SSL Errorfix as other programs. TBH no idea what anything beyond Java is, but can download them!

Also when I run the bots on those VMs, it would in no way be connected to my normal account if I were to log in NOT on the VMs?

Again, Extra Noodles, really appreciate this advice, hoping I can figure this all out in the next few days and buy a few of the bots.

[Extra Noodles]

Ideally, the VMs should have their own unique IP address and MAC address, so as long as you're not making the item/poe transfer too obvious between alt-main (i.e /pay Main xyz, or one sided trade) your last concern should not be a problem.

If you're running the VMs locally, I would suggest using a VPN with different IP addresses for each account, along with a unique MAC address as well. (In Virtualbox there should be a way to set a different MAC address for a clone of the original VM; I find this particularly useful because I don't have to manually install YPP and all the stuff mentioned above for every single VM)

Most of the stuff listed above aren't mandatory,but they are solutions to a majority of errors most people run into when setting up Supply Crate/VMs. (Java and NET are essential though!) And yes, you're grasping the right idea for 1 account per VM- if your computer can handle it you'll be making bank in no time.

[Bobbadog]

Great! Well time to do some testing between Virtual Box and the Amazon Lightsail! I am very excited to even just get a handful of these bots up and running! Appreciate the help as always. Will follow up here with results.

[Soyuntito]

I would suggest using a VPN with different IP addresses for each account

I had this idea as well, only I'm attempting to find a TOR client rather than spin up as many VPNs. OnionFruit was my first choice, but I'm fairly certain it's not entirely anonymous (I've still received some evasion bans with it).

Does anyone have any alternative suggestions, or am I off base here?

[Garbage]

I'd either say rigs or bilge, but you're going to have to be on point with restationing or finding a station in the first place (there's a ton of people doing the same thing on blockades). If you have a good restationer this might help our somewhat.

If you're doing 3-5, consider downloading a VM software with a Windows 7 iso or Windows 10 if your computer can handle it. If you want to make an army of your own, look into Google Cloud Platform or a service that will help you connect to your VM in a server. Search the forums a little bit and I'm sure you'll be able to find a guide written by our fellow members on this topic.

Ideally for cit runs, you would want
1) A bot for a station
2) An sf bot
3) A teaming bot
4) Preferably a staller as well
5) A restationer
6) Auto-log upon divvy/port

All of these tools should be able to be found on Bot-Supply forum posts if you look hard enough. Hope this helped give some general pointers.

Happy Botting!

Do you have access to an auto-logger? i'd be interested in it tdizl#2334

[Extra Noodles]

If you are using a cloud service to host these VMs, this shouldn't be a problem. If you're doing the VMs locally (i.e Virtualbox), I'd suggest subscribing to a service with multiple servers and having each VM connect to a unique one.

[stravaille]

It's not worth doing.
I've created multiple VMs and ran multiple accounts with unique VPN connection points/IPs but when you enter a high paying blockade, you tend to get spotted fairly quickly as a botter and banned manually by the game's OMs. They're still active on weekends, sadly.

Good luck, though.

[Extra Noodles]

There's ways around it- ones that I'm not willing to disclose in public. For one, it helps to tinker with bot settings so the DR isn't excellent/1 row of tokens for rigs, incredible/5-6 tokens for bilge, excellent/1 row of tokens for patch ... and so on. If you plan on multi-botting during blockades/SMHs long-term and have a safe setup to clean poe/items, invest some time in lazing on the navy (private preferred, not the public MBs) and puzzling a bit yourself so your statline simply isn't Solid/Leg rigs, patch and bilge.

Some personal tips:
+ open all your VMs before going to sleep with an anti-afk on sails, guns, dnav), and self-puzzle all of them to distinguished-master at solid/weighty; the last part shouldn't take more than ~10 mins per account (you could say it's not worth your time but you can churn out one "legit-looking" account everyday for 2 weeks, and by the end of the month you have plenty that are much less likely to be banned)
++ if you want to go a step further do it with crafting puzzle sessions that don't have a timer (i.e put all your VMs on alch, IM, foraging or weaving and set the timer to the amount of time required for each experience rank increase; once you get to solid you can do the same and just leave them on overnight, wake up and clear each puzzle = hit weighty, manually puzzle to desired standing at desired exp level, so on)
+++ as an extension to the above you can write something on your own that will press play again once the timer for the timed puzzles (distilling, SW) so you can farm exp on those too- make a little poe as a side gig as welll.
(Of course do the crafting puzzles on free days, and preferably on a dead stall in an inactive island, so a rando doesn't see you puzzling for 5-6 hours)
++++ if you're really paranoid (I don't personally do this), you can use the alts to alt bash your main pirate so u can be solid/ult sf rumble td drinking and trigger stat whores on the leaderboard as a bonus. You can also alternate accounts for spades/hearts; if you have a handful of them there should be enough number of permutations between them so that you can hit a bold-faced exp level even with the exp timer limit.

Is it worth it in the end? Not really, especially if you're not planning on selling the poe short-term and have a decked out main you wish to keep unbanned. Even with these steps, auto botting always carries a risk of being banned, its just that accounts stay alive for a lot longer this way from personal experience (and your VMs dont get banned in r3 with 200k in kade pay)

Happy botting!

[lordrushing]

*Coughs* Rookies

[Extra Noodles]

Good sir, the true rookies run the VMs locally and cry about it when they get banned in 2 hours.

[jono2912]

*Coughs* Rookies

Can't think of a better duo botters <<<< HINT




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