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    Mandatory Verifications for Account Selling. {Outdated/Not Relevant}

    Ahoy!

    So over the past few weeks, scamming as increased, as well as people trying to sell scammed accounts. So what I have decided to do, and with Face's permission, is that all accounts to be sold on www.bot-supply.com will have to be verified by a moderator +.

    People who are only allowed to verify accounts on behalf of Bot-Supply.

    - Face
    - Sobo
    - Sticky
    - Scarecrow
    - Toxic

    All people trying to sell without verification by a moderator + will be closed and all information in the main post will be removed. This is to prevent scamming and the selling of stolen accounts.

    How do I get verified?

    You PM one of the people listed above, and get their Skype or MSN. You will then show them the Puzzle Pirates account, and the email connected to that account. You will then LOG-ON that email address to prove it. You will also be required to show us your I.P AND ISP (Internet Service Provider) without a VPN (Virtual Private Network) or a VM (Virtual Machine) running. We will then access our database of IP's to check that you are who you are and not an imposter, or an evader. If all checks go well, you will able to sell the account. If not, you will not be able to sell and the moderator WILL POST on that thread.

    If you refuse verification you will be suspended for 2 days, if the verification is not positive, you will be banned.

    How to know if someone is verified?

    A moderator + will post a message in your thread.

    How can you help?

    Come to a moderator before you try and sell your account/s to get verified first. That makes it a lot easier on us. Also, to not buy accounts UNTIL THEY HAVE BEEN VERIFIED.

    I'm sorry to do this to you all, but a few members of the botting community think it is "Ok" to steal accounts and sell them for personal profit, so these rules need to be put in place to protect people from being scammed, and to try and stop the transferring of the stolen accounts around the community.

    Thanks guys. <3
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    Last edited by Sobo; 01-03-2014 at 02:24 AM.

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    Does this effect pre-exsisting threads?
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    Is this really necessary? Verification is a small step to deter scamming, and since only a few people can do it, it's also inconvenient. Verification can easily be done between the buyer and seller, and if it isn't, then I feel no sympathy for the buyer who obviously doesn't know what he's doing. We've made the procedures to a safe trade public and easy to access.

    This is babying that helps the minority at the cost of the majority.
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    No, it is only the ones created after this thread.

    And yes Wastedbro, it is, If you don't like it, you don't have to be here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow View Post
    No, it is only the ones created after this thread.

    And yes Wastedbro, it is, If you don't like it, you don't have to be here.
    So basically you won't defend your decision. Instead, you feel the need to say, in other words, "I don't care what my users think about my rules, nor will I explain them".

    It's funny, I remember when Dave used to do that, you know, right before his site fell to shit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wastedbro View Post
    So basically you won't defend your decision. Instead, you feel the need to say, in other words, "I don't care what my users think about my rules, nor will I explain them".

    It's funny, I remember when Dave used to do that, you know, right before his site fell to shit?
    No, but I don't have to sit here and explain to an ex-mod a move that both Face and I agree on, that will ultimately protect our community even that tiny bit more. It unfortunately is necessary for the rule to be in place because of the level of scams that have taken place, if you honestly don't agree with what we have done. Lodge a complaint to Face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow View Post
    No, but I don't have to sit here and explain to an ex-mod a move that both Face and I agree on, that will ultimately protect our community even that tiny bit more. It unfortunately is necessary for the rule to be in place because of the level of scams that have taken place, if you honestly don't agree with what we have done. Lodge a complaint to Face.
    Ok. Since my argument against it isn't enough, how about a counter-proposal?

    Instead of forcing users to trade how you want, how about following in the footsteps of successful marketplaces?

    Instead of absolutely forcing people to verify accounts, why not manipulate the forum structure that helps users find the best places to buy from?

    How about making a subforum for unverified accounts, and verified accounts. Users post their account in the unverified section, and mods may ask for verification. If the user agrees, the mod verifies. If the verification fails, the mod may ban the user, or give an infraction or two based on the accuracy of the description in the thread. If the verification goes well and turns out true, the mod posts that the thread is verified (maybe post an image with big letters spelling "verified"), and move the thread to the verified section.

    Also, if the user refuses verification, the mod may close the thread or post something to signal that there is reasonable belief that the user is out to scam.

    This way, users aren't FORCED to wait, but have the decision to choose between safe and less safe, and also keeps the marketplace 100% free. This also makes sure the users won't overlook the verification process, as it's impossible to miss. Whereas users may not see this thread, as most scammers won't. Also, the mods won't receive any more work

    Of course users who can't read may not benefit from this.
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    Just a bit of an update:

    Any thread created after this post will be required to have a Prefix selected with it. You can locate the prefix box here:




    You MUST select the Awaiting Verification (mandatory) prefix (seeing as how thats the only one hehe) Located here:





    If you do not select this prefix the thread will not post.

    Also note - once a Moderator+ has verified your account they will then change the Awaiting Verification to a Verified prefix.
    Last edited by Sobo; 08-14-2012 at 04:42 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wastedbro View Post
    Ok. Since my argument against it isn't enough, how about a counter-proposal?

    Instead of forcing users to trade how you want, how about following in the footsteps of successful marketplaces?

    Instead of absolutely forcing people to verify accounts, why not manipulate the forum structure that helps users find the best places to buy from?

    How about making a subforum for unverified accounts, and verified accounts. Users post their account in the unverified section, and mods may ask for verification. If the user agrees, the mod verifies. If the verification fails, the mod may ban the user, or give an infraction or two based on the accuracy of the description in the thread. If the verification goes well and turns out true, the mod posts that the thread is verified (maybe post an image with big letters spelling "verified"), and move the thread to the verified section.

    Also, if the user refuses verification, the mod may close the thread or post something to signal that there is reasonable belief that the user is out to scam.

    This way, users aren't FORCED to wait, but have the decision to choose between safe and less safe, and also keeps the marketplace 100% free. This also makes sure the users won't overlook the verification process, as it's impossible to miss. Whereas users may not see this thread, as most scammers won't. Also, the mods won't receive any more work

    Of course users who can't read may not benefit from this.
    Keeping the forum free, maybe good. But unfortunately these days you can't trust anyone. Even so, if someone gets scammed on this website, the mods have to decide who scammed who and still work the report cases, which in my eyes, take a lot longer then a verification of an account would.


    Honestly, like I said in the Skype chat when you argued about this for about half an hour, if you don't like what we do, Simple ; You don't have to be here. We've made this decision because we believe it is what we need to do to keep our community safe which is our job. We're doing that job by making mandatory verifications. If you still need help understanding why, contact Face and complain to him about what we are doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow View Post
    Keeping the forum free, maybe good. But unfortunately these days you can't trust anyone. Even so, if someone gets scammed on this website, the mods have to decide who scammed who and still work the report cases, which in my eyes, take a lot longer then a verification of an account would.


    Honestly, like I said in the Skype chat when you argued about this for about half an hour, if you don't like what we do, Simple ; You don't have to be here. We've made this decision because we believe it is what we need to do to keep our community safe which is our job. We're doing that job by making mandatory verifications. If you still need help understanding why, contact Face and complain to him about what we are doing.
    Arguing takes more than one person.

    I understand completely. You think this will help users, albeit only the dull ones, and make it easier for you guys. It will probably work more efficiently in total. Reminds me of communism.
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